Saturday, December 6, 2008

Radwanski's Right About Iggy

Well said young Adam. I seem to remember hinting about the very same recently. It plagued him last time around too.


Anonymous said...

Hasn't he heard about politics being a contact sport? Rae is out there taking risks and that has gotten me to re-evaluate my opinion of him, for he's putting himself on the line - for himself for sure, but also for us. Given how little power we individually have to influence events, I for one am grateful to him.

rockfish said...

I'm still on the fence, but also leary about talk of more coalition. While it is a viable option, it also seems to be playing right into Harper's plan of creating more divisions and weaknesses both nationally and in the liberal party.
Wouldn't it be wise to spend the next 50 some days looking like the natural opposition, the party that alone is to be ready to take over? It seems by limiting our voice to 'the coalition' also limits our traction, while helps frame ourselves right into the CON ad scheme.
Just saying, that's all.

RuralSandi said...

Did you read John Manley's thoughts on this matter?

He's right.

In fact the responses to his article overwhelminingly agree with him. Some are even wanting Manley as leader.

RuralSandi said...

Dan Gardner of the Ottawa Citizen has a good article as well.

We need level heads here.

James Curran said...

John who?

Robert McClelland said...

Did you read John Manley's thoughts on this matter?

Do you mean the same John Manley that screwed over progressives on the Afghanistan issue?

Leny Vilekoskytch said...

The capability of the human mind to rationalize never ceases to amaze me. If memory serves, you fell into an apoplectic fit when rumors of Ignatieff supporters not being 100% behind Dion's leadership. Fine, support for the current leader seems like a good position to take.

Then, you post a link to a story where it was reported Bob Rae wasn't so much questioning Dion's decisions in a caucus meeting but instead overruling Dion on future Liberal party decisions. Consistency would have suggested that this would have warranted a mild rebuke from you. Mild as it was the candidate himself and not a supporter and therefore deserving of a different standard. However, the rebuke was so mild, it took the form of praise.

Now, when Ignatieff is deferring to the, what did you call him again, "duly elected" leader of the Liberal party, you note it as a failure on Ignatieff's part.

There is nothing wrong with supporting Bob Rae. I don't do it myself, but I'm sure there are reasons to do it. However, the intellectual dishonesty is a bit much.

James Curran said...

You're right, the capability of the human mind to rationalize never ceases to amaze me either. On a good day I have no idea what you're talking about. Today is no exception.

MilitantLiberal said...

Boy I sure wish the PC's were still around so people from the centre right like Manley would have another option and maybe stop fucking with the CENTRE LEFT Liberal party. All of the blue Liberals don't want this coalition for one reason. You don't want to be in bed with the NDP. Get over your hatred and loathing of all things socialist and realize that the Liberal Party is not going to return in the near future to the dominate majorities it once enjoyed. Coalitions are good for democracy and right now a coalition is the only way to return to power. In fact coalitions may be here for awhile.

Mala Fides said...

As someone who has supported Stephane Dion from the beginning of his leadership campaign and through thick and thin, this is difficult to say, but . . .

Stepahne Dion must resign NOW.

He should not wait until caucus meets this week.

He should enjoy dinner tonight with his family at the residence of the Leader of the Loyal Opposition and then pack his bags.

His performance on the now infamous video has made it quite clear that he does not have what it takes to lead the Liberal Party of Canada, let alone a coalition with the likes of Wacky Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe.

I am sorry Mr. Dion, but your continuing presence as Leader of the Party jeopardizes not only the Party, but also the country.

Do the honourable thing and resign immediately.

How can you possibly expect to hold the confidence of a coalition and the house when you have absolutely devasted the confidence of your own party.

Every minute you remain as leader puts us in a worse position as January 27 approaches.

There is nothing that Stephen Harper would rather do than fight another election with you as his opponent and the fact is, there is nothing the Canadian public (including many Liberals) would rather do than punish the Liberal Party for allowing such an inept leader to remain in place.

Resign now!!

Leny Vilekoskytch said...

"Mr. Rae interrupted Mr. Dion, taking him on for being too conciliatory toward Mr. Harper."

"That is when Mr. Rae approached the microphone, telling Mr. Dion that even “monumental change” was not acceptable.

Mr. Dion appeared shocked, the insider said."

You went nuts when you heard a rumor that supporters of Ignatieff might not be foresquare behind Dion's continued leadership.

Then you link to the story with the above quotes. You put in a post where you are praising Rae. Then you have a post linking a story saying Ignatieff should be doing more. In the post you agree with the story. A reader notes some discrepancy in the types of responses...and the lack of shouting about Rae or his supporters for the same kind of conduct you accused Ignatieff's supporters of.

That clear up any confusion?

RuralSandi said...

A cute story - I'm babysitting a little girl (4 years old). My friend had a death in the family and the funeral is quite far away. So, I'm babysitting their grandaughter, who has stayed with me before and is used to me.

Anyway, I was watching the scrums and Bob Rae came to speak. Little Alicia said - there's grandpa-pa.

Her grandfather is Grandpa and Grandpa-pa is her great grandfather who's 84 - I think it was the white haird.