Friday, December 12, 2008

The Governor General Should Be Fired - And So Should Stephen Harper

In light of this.

She allowed him to prorogue last year. She allowed him to break a law and call and election this year. She allowed him to prorogue again this year to avoid a confidence vote.

But, this latest scam takes the cake. There should have been conditions on this government's ability to spend money and make appointments during this prorogation. Full stop.


penlan said...

This will be just one more nail in Harper's coffin. Let him go ahead & do it. It's called suicide.

Socially Active said...

Harper thinks Canada is far too liberal and wants to twist Canada into what he calls conservative. What really wants is to turn Canada into a Fascists country. Unfortunately hard times make people more willing to except temporary injustice. The problem is once justice and the freedom it brings is lots it not always possible to get back.

To insure that is the case Harper is staking the Senate
and Government agencies.

I also notice the prorogue has given the Conservatives to make tax changes without passing a bill.

Is there any limits on Harper's power during a prorogue?

DivaRachel said...

Fire GG over my dead body.

Leny Vilekoskytch said...

Viva la republica?

rww said...

"Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced today that he will be recommending to Governor General Michaƫlle Jean that Parliament be prorogued, thus ending the First Session of the 39th Parliament. Parliament will be recalled on October 16 to commence the Second Session with a Speech from the Throne."

Although I would like to see prorogation periods shorter, that prorogation was the normal and historical practice of ending a session, somewhere between one and two years and starting a new one.

Not that I do not think Harper needs to go and the GG's constitutional powers should be delegated to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who actually understands constitutional law and is independent.

Anonymous said...

Waiting with bated breath over here for Ignatieff to publicly call for the firing of the Governor General of Canada.

Dude, don't go into politics... seriously...

James Curran said...

Dude, I'm in politics. Are you telling me that constitutional scholars are wrong?

Mala Fides said...

Numerous Constitutional experts warned the GG before she met with Harper that if she granted a prorogue, she should only do so if conditions were established that would limit Harper's power to make judicial and senate appointments.

These conditions apparently were not set in place.

Why the GG didn't impose the conditions is the question that needs to be answered.

Canadians have not been informed as to the basis of the GG's decision.

Without reasons, how can her decision to prorogue set a precedent?

Why isn't anyone asking on what basis the decision was made and why were there no conditions or restrictions on the PM's powers imposed given that he clearly does not have the confidence of the Parliament?

Yappa said...

In future we should appoint GGs who are up to the unlikely but serious crises that might occur. Unwilling to resign and give up her luxurious lifestyle, yet unable to stand up to the PM, our GG is not the constitutional safeguard she's supposed to be. Are there no other means to put the brakes on a PM who is running amok? Senate? Supreme court?

wilson said...

''given that he clearly does not have the confidence of the Parliament''

It should be pretty clear now since PM Elect Iggy booted out Dion and Rae,
that the House and Canadians,
did NOT have confidence in the coalition.

How many Senate seats did the Dippers negotiate in the coalition deal
with the Seppies getting 6 and Lizzy getting one, can't tell me Jack refused NDO Senate seats?(wishing to abolish the Senate)

wilson said...

''In future WE should appoint GGs ...
our GG is not the constitutional safeguard she's supposed to be.''

LOL, the PM appoints the GG, not the Liberals.
That's the real issue here isn't it.
YOUR GG, a Liberal from CBC, let you down.
Now YOUR Senate will get 18 Conservatives.
It's YOUR country, and YOUR entitlements....

roblaw said...

It is sad for Conservatives that the current situation brings back the scorn of Brian Mulroney for the raft of Trudeau's appointments which killed John Turner..

"You had an option, sir. You could have said, 'I am not going to do it. This is wrong for Canada, and I am not going to ask Canadians to pay the price.' You had an option, sir--to say 'no'--and you chose to say 'yes' to the old attitudes and the old stories of the Liberal Party. That sir, if I may say respectfully, that is not good enough for Canadians."

Mr. Harper.. you have an option, sir.

wilson said...

The other option is,
ignoring coalition threats,
and having separatists in the Senate, and one step closer to breaking up Canada.

Iggy had an option, he chose the coalition.
Iggy chose 49 separtists over 49 federalists.

roblaw said...

..I'd rather take my chances with a leader that says, "I mean what I say." Canada will survive whatever appointments the Liberals make.. and, in reality, if the Liberals were so dim as to fill those appointments with their cronies, including Elizabeth May.. well, there will be a day of reckoning at the polls.

I'd prefer to take the high ground.. but then, that's just me.

Eugene Forsey Liberal said...

Twas ever thus. Not GG's fault. To have put conditions on Gov't would have indicated uncertainty about confidence of House which would have meant, logically, should have refused prorogation and waited to see results of confidence vote. But that would have implies, given news, that knew and approved of coalition. I was against prorogation, but entirely defensible decision. Was going to set precedent either way. Given Throne Speech, PM as chief advisor, etc., tougher to say no to prorogation than say yes. I think she should have refused but can't blame for saying yes. And having said yes, for reasons outlined, can't really place conditions. Wish she had. wish she hadn't prorogued. But, c'est la vie. Legitimate patronage (if one can say such a thing) doesn't bother me much - same everywhere, way of the world, and sure there are talented Cons for some positions. Best if done in as non-partisan way possible, based on qualifications, but democracy's logic implies patronage. Will always happen, question is how best to control it and ensure it doesn't do harm.

Mala Fides said...

Well, I guess that she always can say no to the appointments until Harper shows that he has the confidence of the Parliament.
This seems like the most sound path given Harper's obvious desparation play in asking for prorogation.

And please don't get me wrong, I am not one of those people who don't believe in the legitimacy of the GG office.

I am not calling on the abolishment of the monarchy and I am not challenging the legitimacy of our whole system just because the GG granted the prorogue.

I am simply saying that Canadians deserve to know why the GG granted the prorogue. We as a nation are no wiser than we were a week ago.

I think we as a nation are entitled to know why Her Excellency granted Dirty Steve Harper his early Christmas Present.

Maybe they had plans for an X-mas block party that would have been spoiled if Steve had to move out of 24 Sussex!

dillon said...

Who does Harper think he is anyway?

Prime Minister?

He should remember that he's just temporary until Dion er Rae er Ignatieff takes over.pedigedl

dillon said...

By the way I heard a rumour that Iggy will have a serious and I mean serious Ukranian opponent next time. One of those Kennedy mongrels.