The "What Do I Know Grit"
All right! Let's hope that we keep Vancouver South, Keith Martin's riding (whose name escapes me at the moment), and Brampton West. And it would be nice to somehow overturn Kitchener-Waterloo as well. Not for Telegdi's sake, but some friends of mine work for him and it'd be a shame if they were out of a job.
Andrew Kania in BW will keep his seat.
Hope so. By the way breaking news:http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081024/Dosanjh_election_081024/20081024?hub=TopStoriesAnd by 22 votes. This is getting ridiculously close for anybody.
youre right about gaining morebut Martin elected 13, not 10
You're right buddy. 10 male, 3 female. I only saw the ten. My apologies.
it's okay, Jim, you were magnanimous enough in your apology for us to overlook the fact that overlooked three women :-)nonetheless, your headline still holds. For a man who was projected to be hated an despised by the Quebec voter, Stephane Dion did well.
Unfortunately, Martin was kinda more popular in ever OTHER province and territory... It's nice to see a little glimmer, but I think it's also a stretch. After all, he is a native Quebecker. The bounce he did get, then equally, is still disappointing.Door knocking and delivering people to the polls, I was hearing how people still liked Martin.
I think based on raw numbers it was better for Dion in 2008 than Martin in 2006. Of course, besides this victory outside the island of Montreal, the Grits went back to second place in a number of ridings outside the GMR such as Drummond, a riding in the Gaspe, and several whose names escape me at the moment. Not to mention, on the island we were really close to winning back Ahuntsic and Jeanne Le Ber.
Context is just a little bit important I think. The Quebec numbers can be explained first by the Sponsorship Scandal, and then by the collapse of the Conservative vote in Quebec due to Harper gaffes. Polls showed that once the Conservative vote began to fall apart, the Bloc and the Liberals benefited (soft-nationalists went Bloc and federalists went Liberal). The Liberals won 14 seats now in Quebec this election. Jean Chretien won 19 seats in 1993, 29 in 1997, and 36 in 2000 in Quebec. 14 is hardly a success; it is marginally less disastrous. In context, however, I would argue it's extremely disappointing as Martin managed to achieve similar results with the weight of Sponsorship around his neck while Dion needed major mistakes from Harper to accomplish a similar feat.
Yes, but Dion will never be accused of destroying this party for a generation like Martin and his wrecking crew will be.
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